Jason Crary
(10/23/07 - Initial BBT Report)
Jason Crary, 36, an English teacher and girls soccer coach at Worthington Christian High School, in Worthington, Ohio has been arrested and jailed after felony sexual-assault charges were filed against him in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Crary reportedly coached boys and girls soccer at Heritage Christian High School in Milwaukee during the late 1990’s.
Crary is charged in Wisconsin Circuit Court with four felony counts of sexual assault by a school staff member with each count carrying a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
Reportedly the warrant for Crary’s arrest states that the alleged offenses occurred between September 1997 and March 1998 and the alleged victim was a then 16-year-old female student who Crary allegedly fondled on multiple occassions. In some reports the girls is listed as a member of the soccer team, in other reports as Jason Crary’s “teacher’s assistant”.
The alleged victim, now 27, claims that Crary had sexual contact with her 12 times during her junior year, beginning when she was 16. It is alleged the sexual contact took place in Crary’s home.
Jason Crary is the second soccer coach to depart Worthington Christian High School under a cloud of allegations of sexual misconduct with students in a matter of days.
Last week science teacher and boys’ soccer coach Dwayne Smith resigned after he was among those profiled in the series, “The ABCs of Betrayal,” publish by the Columbus Dispatch which explored teacher misconduct.
Reportedly, in 1996 Smith admitted that he had fondled a middle-school girl. He resigned, attended Christian counseling and was forgiven by the school and church. He later was rehired by the school.
According to the school web site Crary is a 1989 graduate of Worthington Christian High School and has a wife and two small children who are featured on his page at the school web site.
After being arrested and removed from the school in handcuffs, Crary was being held in the Franklin County Jail to await an extradition hearing on Thursday.
Update 10/25/07:
Jason Crary, agreed today to waive extradition and drive himself to Wisconsin by Monday to answer felony charges.
Crary’s attorney said that will leave the jail today after posting a $50,000 appearance bond.
For the Bad Bad Teacher take on the Worthington Scandal Click Here
For a very good perspective on the Worthington Scandal we recommend Rumination’s and WCS Betrayal, both of which provide a perspective from those close to and deeply concerned with this scandal.
For the Worthington Christian Schools web site, Click Here
1/24/08 - Guilty Plea
Court records indicate that Jason Crary has entered a guilty plea to four counts of sexual assault by school staff member.
Court records also indicate that sentencing has been set for April 3rd.
1/25/08 - Suspended Sentence Coming
The Columbus Dispatch is reporting that the prosecutor in the case said he will recommend a suspended prison sentence for Jason Crary.
04/04/08 - Sentencing
On Thursday Jason Crary was sentenced to up to 14 months in prison and five years probation as a result of his guilty pleas to four counts of sexual assault by a school staff member upon a ten 16-year-old female student in the 1990s.
Crary’s probation will be transferred to Ohio when he completes his prison term.
References:
Court Records In Case of State of Wisconsin vs. Jason Crary
Ex-teacher gets up to 14 months
(4/03/08)
Ex-coach guilty in Wisconsin (1/25/08)
Former Worthington Christian coach pleads guilty in ’90s sex case (1/24/08)
Court Records in case of State of Wisconsin vs. Jason Crary
Worthington Christian teacher agrees to extradition (10/25/07)
Teacher arrested on sex charges (10/23/07)
Former Teacher Accused of Sexual Abuse (10/23/07)
2nd Worthington Christian teacher in trouble over sexual allegations (10/22/07)
Teacher Arrested, Charged With Sexual Assault (10/23/07)
Worthington Teacher Faces Sexual Assault Charges (10/23/07)
Google Archive Of Jason Crary’s Web Page at Worthington Christian High School Site
I have no comments that can convey the anguish yesterday’s arrest has caused my family. My daughter is a past student of Mr. Crary’s and loved him dearly. This allegation following on the heels of last week’s resignation of Dwayne Smith has devastated our school community. Both men are highly respected and deeply loved teachers in our school and it’s horrible to see what’s happening to them right now. My prayers are with both families, and I pray that Mr. Crary is innocent of the charges posted against him.
It is very difficult for me to see Mr. Crary listed on this page. I am a former student of his, and respected him more than any other teacher or college professor I have had. While I was in high school he was a hero to me, and it is largely because of his Godly example that I am a teacher myself today. I hope that whatever comes of these allegations will blow over as quickly as possible so he can soon return to positively influencing the next generation of young adults. I’m praying for the Crarys and the school, that God would give them comfort and grace in these terrible circumstances.
I graduated from Worthington Christian, and I know Mr. Crary extremely well. I think this is ridiculous that all of this is being publicized a decade after it actually happened. He has impacted so many students lives by being such an amazing role model and teacher and it is unbelievable to watch him be torn to shreds by people who do not even know him or what he supposedly did.
None of you should comment on what you have no idea about.. you did not know him then. He was a flirt..if you have been sexually abused, THEN you have a right to comment.
It’s horrible to see whats happening to him?
You hope it will blow over?
You seem to be ignoring the fact that he is a pedophile and is being charged with sexual assault.
You may have “forgiven” him, but the law hasn’t, there is no Statute of Limitations for sexual assault.
I have been abused- by a teacher- and I also work with high school kids. I know that the 16 year old girls at the school that I work with probably know more about sexual things than most of our teachers. They flirt with everyone…including teachers…they come to school half dressed and we expect that the young men are suppose to be unaffected by this behavior. Mr. Crary has not been convicted of anything and my guess is the reason she never came forward is because she is one of those girls that act like so many in our society act….if I have sex, I am whole…wow are we messed up!
Sexually abused??? I’m sorry but she totally wanted it! I was a student of his during all this at HSC and please… he was hot! EVERY Girl wanted him!!! And so did she. There was no “abuse” there. Yes, what he did was wrong.. but it wasn’t abuse or assult. Please…. If you knew her at all… you’d understand! LOL I’m on his side!!
Victims have rights too. It is besides the point that these allegations came out a decade later. The choices that he made ten years ago still haunt those he hurt. I believe in God’s redemptive forgiveness but that is not to say that there are not consequences for his actions. The truth will come out, and both schools will be exposed for lying by omission - they had knowledge of these incidents and chose not to go to the authorities.
Just because someone accuses someone of doing something wrong doesn’t make it true. Just because the legal system has gotten involved and charges were filed, doesn’t make it true. Just because someone was arrested and taken to jail, doesn’t make it true. It doesn’t surprise me that people, Christians (who should know better) or non-Christians automatically think that this man (Jason Creary) is Guilty because all these events have happened. Our legal system continues to error on the side of caution even when the facts are or are not there. Many innocent people have been falsely accused and have been forced into this judicial system and praise God it is the best judicial system in the world. If many of you lived back in the cowboy days and this happened, you would have believed what others have said and done and hung this man from the tallest tree in the center of town for everyone to see. Not finding out what the TRUTH was. Shame on you, shame on me, I used to think the same way. We now will have to let our legal system find out what the TRUTH is. Up to now there has been no truth revealed only accusations and a legal system to accommodate it. Please pray that the TRUTH will be revealed and then we can go from there. The TRUTH is what matters. If anyone out there has been abused this comment is not to make light of the pain you have gone through. I know it is great, but you shouldn’t take it out on everyone who has been accused. Not everyone is guilty. Trust me , I lived the experience.
No Comment.. I have this to say to you… You are an ignorant person. You are admitting by your own words that something occurred between Jason Crary and his victim.. You claim that what he did was wrong, but you are on his side? Are you kidding me? You have obviously never been victimized. She may have been 16, but that in no way suggests she was asking for it. She was a student of his that trusted him. You knew, God knows other at Heritage knew…the rumors were flying… and no one did anything about it. Shame on you and shame on Jason Crary.
Ah, a good time to dust off the old yearbook. There were 18 girls in JV soccer in 1997, then 14 in 1998. Some I knew of, others not so well. Had Crary for Junior English in 97: very nice guy. Cliff Notes got a lot of usage in his class.
“It was the worst of times, it was the best of times…”. Like to put his weight against the podium and tip it forward a lot in class.
Not sure what to make of this case…would seem unlikely that one of his students would make something like this up after 11 years. I seem to remember an incident a couple years ago (ha, I found the exact date: October 21, 2005) when a “fake” Myspace page of Mr. Crary and Pastor Cady was put up by students and if my memory serves me right, one of Mr. Crary’s favorites listed on the fake ad was “young girls”.
Hmmmmm
Whether she wanted it or not doesn’t rule out assault or abuse. This was a minor being assaulted by an adult that is supposed to be a leader. Wanted by everyone doesn’t justify his right to detriment the integrity and youtfulness of a minor. This poor girl, if true, may have suffered pain from this for years and possibly for her lifetime. Instead of laughing and defending the teacher that may have done some wrong. You should instead wish that it isn’t true and if it is you should wish that he be put away and that this woman is able to find some closure in this justice. She is very brave to come forward and truly the better person if this is all true. My thoughts and prayers are with her. She can use this to be a great teacher to others and help make others stronger and willing to come forward.
I hope that this all blows over. He was a great person and teacher, and there is a statute of limitations, i believe it is 35 years old.
does anyone else find it incredibly ironic that these allegations were made to the police the very same week that so much was going on with Dwayne Smith? If 11 years had passed….why has all of this happened to WC in the very same week….I just find it very odd….
With the events that went on with Mr. Smith we all discovered what he had done and the story with Mr. Crary is almost exactly the same i think that is very odd and quite fishy… One of the other “posters” said “Sexually abused??? I?m sorry but she totally wanted it! I was a student of his during all this at HSC and please? he was hot! EVERY Girl wanted him!!! And so did she. There was no ?abuse? there.” knowing high school girls this is probably true and we should all take this into account!!! We all love Mr. Smith and Mr. Crary and I hope that this will all be solved
As a student during the time this incident was alledged, I can honestly say that I was not surprised to hear about Mr. Crary’s arrest. Although very sad for his wife and young children, Mr. Crary had auora around him that attracted MOST girls, but not EVERY (as someone previously posted). He was very nice and exteremly flirtatious with a few select students, and trust me, they flirted back! He should have known better. He was a teacher, a CHRISTIAN, and let’s not forget to mention, MARRIED! After he was arrested, it was reported that he was very remorseful and cooperative. If he didn’t do it, then he wouldn’t have acted that way. He knew in that moment that he was caught red-handed…But that is not to say that there is a viable excuse for the length of time it took to come to this.
As for the students from WCHS, I am so sorry to hear that now 2 of your teachers have been accused of such horrific things. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Please do remember that although someone appears to be perfect and dear and loving, 10 years was a long time ago, and you weren’t there….I was, and unfortunately, these allegations are in no way far fetched.
He’s the adult and she was not. It doesn’t matter if she was flirting; he’s supposed to be the responsible adult and trusted teacher. His actions at HCS made more than one other person uncomfortable. I am NOT saying he abused anyone else, I AM SAYING that his interaction with the students he preferred made others uncomfortable. You’re right, his personality was pretty suave, but that was the facade he hid behind, just like other teachers that have been convicted and accused of sexual assault and or abuse. Good for her that she had the courage to come forward, she could be saving other girls from the same traumatic thing!! Too many of us have let men like Crary walk, don’t let something like this happen to another female.
Remember, former student 2, she’s not in OH, she’s in WI.
In general, I’m sick and tired of girls who prance around in tiny tight outfits, flaunt their sexuality and flirt and then all of a sudden when something happens to them.. they become “a sweet and innocent girl” wake up! Geez… And then the parents can’t figure out why this happened to their perfect innocent girl but yet… they let their child walk out of the house looking like whores. Hmmmm… Oh and by the way in the newspapers it says that it happened 12 times… that’s not assault that was a “relationship” It is wrong? Yes! should he be charged with assualt, rape, abuse, as a pedifile? No! I do think he should be punished for something since it was still wrong with her being underage and him being a teacher. But they make him out to be his nasty, perverted guy and her this oh so innocent girl… which if you know her and him, it’s quite the opposite!
it is interesting to hear the opinions of those who knew him and the alleged victim at the time. I hope that when court comes, all circumstances will be taken in, and that the truth comes out. I think the charges are a little extreme for what has been said to have occurred. we will have to wait and see how it works out.
“But they make him out to be his nasty, perverted guy and her this oh so innocent girl… which if you know her and him, it’s quite the opposite!” I couldn’t agree with you more!
No matter how a young woman dresses does not give anyone a right to take advantage of a minor. As Christians we need to remember that wolves can dress in sheep’s clothing. I was sexually assaulted by a different teacher in eighth grade at HCS and I was wearing a long skirt and sweater at the time of the incident. There is no excuse for Christian men to victimize young women that they are entrusted to respect and be role models for. What happened in this case is extremely unfortunate and as Christians we need to pray for all the victims involved and that the truth and justice are carried out.
So my dear alumni friend and I having been following this and so shocked to hear about all of the chaos going on at WC. Really, we think it’s slightly ridiculous. Mr. Crary was and IS an upstanding good man of character, and these allegations against him…we believe…are questionable. Now in the entire nine or so years he was with WC, there never once was any incident reported or rumored, even, of Jason Crary being inapropriate with any female student, so it’s hard to believe that he was ever inapropriate with anyone before he taught at WC. Not to discredit what this girl is saying, but it was reported that this student from HCS was allegedly assaulted TWELVE times in his home. TWELVE. Let’s emphasize that again. TWELVE. So what, being fondled the first few times wasn’t enough for her to stand up? She just let it go on? I understand that situations like that can be awkward and sometimes you might not know what to do at first, but TWELVE TIMES….TWELVE. Really? I mean…really? She didn’t have to continue returning to his house. That makes it seem like the girl was possibly enjoying this supposed fondling, I mean, she wasn’t exactly helping her case by continuing to have contact with him, especially outside of school. Does anyone else think that’s kind of odd? Anyone? C’mon people. No one will ever know what really happened, but to resurface this issue after nine years, that’s just… I’m not even sure what to think. Why wait nine years? What stopped the charges from being pressed then? Nine whole years? Also, I’m not saying it’s right for any teacher to encourage sexual harrasment, inapropriate flirtations, etc, but this girl…well, I don’t know her, but I question her own motivation. Was she throwing herself at him? Was she making it hard for him to resist? She might not have been an adult like Jason Crary, but she still has obligation as a young woman to act with responsible judgement and virtue, and to not put herself in compromising positions. I’d love to see more feedback from people who knew this girl in highschool. What was she like? Speaking from my own observation, and my WC alumni friend would agree, girls have a tendency to flock to Mr. Crary. We witnessed a few accounts where girls were making no-so-subtle advances on Mr. Crary. Maybe he had a weak moment at HCS, but she didn’t seem to own up to her own responsibility, or do what she could to, again, stay away from him, assuming she really didn’t want it (which is why I question what was really going through her head back in high school during these supposed meetings between her and Crary).
AND AS FOR THE MR. SMITH ISSUE:
From what I’ve read, he had one account where he shamefully admitted to fondling a middle school student. HE RESIGNED. He went to COUNSELING. He apologized and was forgiven by the church and school. This man did what he could to redeem himself from a mistake made years ago. The fact that someone dug this information up, and brought a dealt with matter back into the lime light for scrutiny and ridicule, AFTER he paid the price and dealt with consequences…that’s wrong. Why make him relive one of the most embarassing, horrific times of his life? What’s the point of that? He is definitely a changed man, at least I think so, I have never heard of another instance with him since his admitted mistake years ago. Now that man is screwed out of a good job, where he was surrounded by people that cared. This is ludicrous. If this was his only mistake with this, let it be, he’s sorry. Leave the man alone.
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
He’s a man, he’s human. Forgive as Christ forgave you.
Although, most everyone these days has no concept of anything beyond the day their in; there was a time not so long ago when adolescence didn’t continue into your 30s. A time not so long ago when relationships between 16 year old females and 26 year old males were not a heinous criminal act. But there was also a time when the media didn’t control what everyone thought. A time when people could actually think for themselves; when they could tell the difference between a victim and an active participant. What has happened to Jason Crary is a travesty. I feel like a Jew living in Nazi Germany. Where will the SS show up next. To quote a 60’s prophet quoting an OT prophet, “When ya gonna wake! when ya gonna wake up! and Strenthen the things that remain.”
Looks like we got our self a perve on our hands!. First, i would like to start with Dwaynes case, he admitted to fondling the girl (a middle school girl by the way) and the church did nothing but a slap on the wrist (deleted by webmaster).
what i do know is that the church did everything to cover it up, and then decided to let him back into the arms of young children. the first time dwayne left, the whole gbc community thought it was about an affair, not an affair dealing with a middle school girl. how unprofessional can the church get by thinking that counceling would suffice in treating an under age sex scandal. was he hired back because he was cured of his sexual frustration within the company of a child or was it because his dad was a huge benefactor to the school, i dont know? but he never should have been aloud back to teach. by doing so wcs and gbc have jeopardized the well being of all it’s students. people pay the money to send there kids to a school so suff like this doesn’t happen and if it does, then the situation should have been dealt with properly, not a slap on the wrist then followed by a prayer. now, crary’s up to bat with bases loaded and a molested child on third, consent or not he still had sex with a child and if she was dressed slutty does that matter, no! because by law that’s still statutory rape. i understand wcs had no idea of these allegations but it was still brought to light days after dwaynes resignation, and i beleive this is no coincidence because i just don’t believe in coincidences, what i do believe it is, is punishment brought on by God, for neglecting your responsibilities by spending to much time trying to hide things from your community, we are a tribe, we are to stick together through thick and thin, not abandon our moral beliefs because we thought these guys were good Christian men. you can forgive, but forgiveness doesnt mean please come back for sloppy seconds, while we wait for another newspaper article. we should stick with what we know, keep God in our church and politics out.
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for the parents, who above have left comments on this page talking about how he was forgiven by chuch and school, and how could the dispatch ruin these fine men with these accusations. well, they brought these accusations upon themselves, no body made these guys fondle young girls, they did it on their own free will. For any parent to go out of their way to call these girls liars or whores should probably revaluate their own parenting skills and might want to think about adoption, because trying to keep sex offenders in the company of your child seems weird, almost like an underground satanic sex cult, grosssssss!!!!!
I for one think this whole thing is ODD and WRONG!
Nobody knows the truth, but yet here everybody sits and points the finger…………
I attended HCS during the time all of this was supposedly going on. One point I think ALOT of you have missed is he hasn’t been CONVICTED of this at this point….I hear alot of people already accepting that he actually DID THIS! I hope those of you that have taken the side of the *Alleged” victim (and I use the word “victim” lightly) never find yourself in the position of someone accusing you of such a horrific thing. As much as we all know there are adults out there that take advantage of children, we can’t forget about the children that sometimes take advantage of adults. And by that I mean, the ones that make up ridiculous stories simply because they are warped in their head! And in the process they RUIN the lives of GOOD people!
As I said, I attended HCS, and I think I know exactly what girl has come forward with this ACCUSATION…..
and all I have to say about that is, It was very well known that the girl had a “thing” for Mr. Crary, and was an absolute flirt on a regular basis, she also LOVED spending time in his room! I remember thinking to myself, “Why are you in his class AGAIN!?!”
*So the poster that said Mr. Crary was “flirting” ….THINK AGAIN! I think that “flirting” and “friendliness” are often misconstrued!!
And just the fact that it was reported she spent numerous times at his house, surely puts a red flag up for me!
Hmmm, let’s see- Couldn’t get enough of him at school, constantly wanting to be in his room- OH! and was his “teacher aide”….and spent time at his house (probably with the soccer team)….WOW!!!! that sounds like someone that was SEXUALLY ABUSED!! Give me a BREAK!!!!! When are these types of girls held accountable for their actions and choices???????
I had Mr. Crary for a teacher throughout my 4 years of High School, and I never felt uncomfortable or awkward and never thought that him flirting was an issue with him and any of his students.
This girl is making it really hard for REAL VICTIMS, and I think THAT’s what all of you should be more concerned about!
Why arent’t there more questions about why it took 10 YEARS for this girl to accuse Mr. Crary!?!?!?! If he is this “awful teacher” that alot of you are suggesting and even saying he is, WHY has he not been accused of anything like this up until now!?!
Those of you that NEVER had him for a teacher….you don’t get the right to say ANYTHING! And I’d be afraid to judge him if I were any of you, All you good Christian people KNOW what the Bible says about THAT!!!!!!!!
And if for some reason he is guilty of this charge, and he did give into tempation, I would have to say…”There but for the grace of God GO I!” Also, if there is any truth to this ACCUSATION, GOD FORBID That our Havenly Father deals with Mr. Crary the way SOME OF YOU are dealing with him…..and I know that when we “fall into tempation, or any other kind of sin” …God CERTAINLY has WAY more GRACE And MERCY than alot of you are showing towards Crary’s situation!!!!!!!!!!!
Praying for Mr. Crary and his family and standing IN HIS CORNER!!!!
Mehoff,
Mr. Smith admitted, resigned, sought counseling, and did what he needed to do to get his life back together. WC felt that he was stable and changed and allowed him another chance. Now I am not for some of the things that go on at that school, the way things are handled, turned a blind eye to, etc… believe me, but as far as Mr. Smith goes, the reason they didn’t want that spread around most likely for the sake of Mr. Smith. He made a mistake years ago that he’ll never forget, that will haunt him forever, do you think he wants that unburied and thrown in his face on a daily basis, especially since he has “done his time” so to speak? You may see what WC did as “just a slap on the wrist” punishment, but just because he didn’t have to serve jailtime and was able to learn from his mistake and NOT MAKE ANOTHER ONE LIKE THAT doesn’t mean he wasn’t being punished. It sounds like you want more justice for the thing that was done. When is the punishment enough, though?
As far as the men fondling girls of their own free will comment goes, you’re right, they made concious decisions to act upon inapropriate impulses. Well, Mr. Smith did. AGAIN, he’s changed. As far as Mr. Crary though, these are accusations, no one will ever know the whole story, and you must think about both sides, not just about the alleged victim filing these charges. Yes, something may have happened between this HCS and Jason Crary, but sexual assault? Forced encounters, TWELVE TIMES, outside of school property, where they would BOTH be making the effort to see eachother? That sounds more mutual than a one-sided assault issue. You’re right, nobody made Crary act upon desire, but if this girl was truly assaulted, AGAIN I’d like to know, why so many times? And why taking place outside of school, where she would have to make an effort to travel to his house and see him. I could understand if they took place AT the school, because you can’t leave school grounds during school hours, she’d have nowhere to go…but his house. And I remember hearing girls joke about “the things (they’d) like to do to Crary”, some girls would make advances, as he was able to control himself then, but just think for a minute, maybe this girl took her advances to an extreme, maybe he had a weak moment, which spawned some kind of affair, rather than sexual assault…that seems more pliable. Of course that’s not right either, but the point is, there’s responsibility from BOTH parties that was ignored, and wasn’t just some EVIL SCARY CRARY molesting an innocent sweet girl that never even looked in his direction like that, do you know what I’m saying? I know hearing of students in college having affairs with teachers twice their age, etc, but they’re of age so they don’t necessarily have to contain desires, or what have you, but you put it two years behind that age of consent bar and people claim child molestation or whatever. This HCS girl may have been two years younger than what Americans consider the legal age of adulthood, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she was stupid or ignorant or completely innocent, therefore allowed to be exempt from her own actions that might have prompted this whole issue. Really I think we need more fact, if possible, or more sides to the story before just assuming because this girl is claiming sexual assault Crary is automatically some monster forcing himself on girls.
My response is to YOU..: “No Comment on October 25th, 2007 at 10:37 am”
You said a ton of immature things but I will address this quote.. “Oh and by the way in the newspapers it says that it happened 12 times… that’s not assault that was a “relationship” It is wrong? Yes! should he be charged with assualt, rape, abuse, as a pedifile? No!”
EVERY adult KNOWS the charges that can come upon them for doing something like this…so IF they decide to go forward with having sexual relations with not only a minor but a student instead of.. HM..simply have sex with their SPOUSE or their hand, then they DESERVE EVERY name pinned to them that the law hands out!!!
Also, since Im in the mood, You can be as sick of the way girls dress and “prance” around, but that doesnt mean that they understand the pain that can come when an adult comes around and decides to take advantage of the situation. ANY adult KNOWS that girls who flaunt anything have insecurities…and if they DONT walk away..they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
Everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions. No one is perfect, but when it comes to something like this, the adult either makes it happen or stops it.
Oh, and for those of you that are saying he was an amazing romodel, he must not have taken YOU to see “SHOW GIRLS” in the theater or bought you CIGARS since you were underage and hung out with GIRL STUDENTS alone in his house all the time! (WHAT exactly about THAT is influencial to you??) People CAN change, and maybe, just maybe his guilt stopped him from continueing to do this past Heritage Christian School in West ALlis, but that doesnt mean he shouldnt be held responsible for what he has done! You can NOT run from your sin. You have to face it someday, here or on judgement day.
If this girl finally had the courage after all these years to come forward, I pray that she finds her peace in it.
She obviously wanted to be sexual with him since it happened that many times. That doesnt change the fact that this ADULT took advantage of her, over and over…which doesnt show much remorse, in my eyes.
Its a bit like the sexually abused child. Who feels guilty about the abuse. People always wonder WHY. Its not their fault, right!? But many times they enjoy it because it “felt good”. Too young to even know what it was that even felt good. Guilt, because you feel deep down that its wrong, but too young to know what to do or not to do…all confusion and not understanding the pain that will come later.
This girl has to take responsibility for her part, and forgive herself…and him…besides EVERYTHING else he was married too. She obviously knew it was wrong as well.
But the law sees her as the victim, and for GOOD reason. The adult has more responsibility…DUH.
It has not yet come out.. but I promise it will… those of you that defend WCHS and HCS…Worthington was made aware of what Jason Crary did in 2002.. FIVE YEARS AGO!!! For five years, the covered it up.. who knows who else may have been victimized in those five years… as for Heritage, they had there suspicions during his time at HCS, they did nothing…didnt report and then failed to report in 2002 as well. For school that our “shocked to hear the allegations” and our “fully cooperating” they are failing to tell the whole truth… They care more about the name/reputation of their schools, then the students they are there to protect.
It is perversely obvious that many of these entries are not only written without knowledge but without common sense. Furthermore, it is also painfully apparent that many of the entries are written by 20 something’s whose perception of right and wrong is severely skewed.
Some of the undisputed facts like having young girls at your house etc. show a complete lack of judgment.
The “she wanted it” and “she provoked it” comments are not only appalling but show the inherent stupidity of the author.
He’s already shown poor judgment. I’m happy to see those who he’s positively impacted supporting him…good for you. However remember to support the sinner not the sin.
Like many on this forum I know inside details…this isn’t good for The Church, The school, and all families involved…not good at all.
A 16 year old asking for it? Dressing inappropriately? - Teacher Student relationships are NEVER to be violated EVER.
For those who say she should have stopped it or why did she let it go on?- He was the ADULT TEACHER and HE should have NEVER started it. He had the power.
Why 11 Years?/ Fishy? - How long would it take you to come forward for fear of comments like these written about you and dealing with police, media etc.
Why is it that the alleged victim is being raked over the coals and the alleged predator is called GODLY?
Dear WCHS alumni- While what you say about Mr. Smith and his admission, paying the price - counceling and being forgiven by the church DOES NOT MEAN TO PUT HIM BACK WITH STUDENTS AFTER HE OFFENDED. He should Never work with children. I would think he would do some other work so there would never be a question again.
Girls flocking to Crary gives him no rights. Please quit blaming th victims.
While maybe Mr. Smith should never work with children, I would like to re-point out a fact that someone brought up: Crary was not convicted, HAS not been convicted yet. How do we know she is a victim? What evidence do we have supporting either case? How do you know he is not the victim? Not every rape victim has actually been raped, molested, harassed, etc. I’m not saying she wasn’t, but where’s the proof she was? Where’s the proof she isn’t crying wolf?
You are correct Crary has not been convicted. Did you see the article from the prosecutor in Milwaukee that said, “the alleged victim will be a credible witness.” The prosecutor doesn’t bring charges unless he/she has a reason/proof that something happened.
Wow, you people are sad. I’m glad a few of us alums from WCS have brains. Mr. Smith SHOULD never, and thankfully, WILL never teach children again. That’s the price you pay for molesting an innocent, helpless child. The church covered it up, no matter how you want to sugar coat it with his “counseling” and he “paid his price”. Sure, then take him away from the kids. Please.
Crary, well, the truth will come out and at this point, I’m suggesting that you all shut your mouths because you know NOTHING of her side yet. As someone stated above, prosecutor’s don’t go out searching for high profile cases with no evidence. I’m sure he’s got something up his sleeve and you are going to feel pretty silly. Wait, no you won’t. You will sit back and say “It’s all her fault, he couldn’t help himself, poor Crary”. How sad. Put your personal feelings aside and think of the victim for a moment. It’s WAS NOT her fault, no matter how she dressed or acted.
It is obvvious many of you are missing some things. The law is the law. The law in Ohio says a teacher has sex with a student and it is a crime. period. I am guessing something like that is true in Wisc also. Next, many of you show how naive you are, as well as unintentionally cruel, about sexual abuse. As has been posted in other blogs:
561 Sexual Offenders self-reported a total of 291,737 “paraphiliac acts” committed against 195,407 victims under the age of 18 (average number of victims for each offender was 348!)
Employing polygraph, other researchers found one group of offenders had an average of 110 victims and 318 offenses
Act out for an average of 16 years before they are caught
Sexual offenders who abused females committed an average of 23.2 crimes
Sexual offenders who molested males committed an average of 281.7 crimes
Lifetime average number of victims for each offender ranges from 68 to 348!
I wonder if the wonderful Christians at WCS are as dilligent in extending grace to the students that commit sexual sin? When I was there a pregnant girl would be kicked out. I often wondered if the administration was getting kickbacks from the abortion industry?
That having been said- I hope the accusations against Crary are false- I cannot imagine what his family is going through right now.
BTW- regarding the Duane Smith Case- why are the actual decision makers in his rehire remaining silent while a newbie like Troy McINtosh has to bear the brunt of this media blitz?
The most important point is CRARY was the ADULT teacher and she was the juvenile student. If he was hot or if they flirted back in forth, it should have not went any further because a normal/responsible ADULT would have recognize the fact it is a against the law to continue or start a relationship.
WHY? we ask the victim took so long to report. Do your homework people, statistics show victims don’t come forward right away, due to being embarassed, or scared, etc. Think of it like this too, Crary was grooming her, playing mind games with the juvenile. This is a very confusing situtation for the juvenile to be in.
I know he is not convicted, but remember the Police have to have probalbe cause to arrest someone and would arrest Crary if they did not have proof.
I say GREAT JOB FOR THE VICTIM TO FINALLY STEP UP. I bet their are probably more victims out there and this is just the tip of the ice burg.
I was in church the day Dwayne stood up and confessed. He stated that he was stepping down from a position of authority and would never work with children again, etc… I think that is why some parents (mine included) were unsure and upset when he came back to teach. I understand why the school didnt release information about what he had done (at the time), because parents would have never wanted him to come back. However, that doesnt make it right and it set the school up for major liability.
I’ll go ahead and add here that I agree with the above comments that WC cares more about their clean name than those who are hurting (whether it be the victims or pregnant girls).
He was one of my favorite teachers and I am glad that he seems to have turned his life around since the incident. I agree with a previous comment: support the sinner but not the sin. As Christians we should try and live by this verse “let he without sin throw the first stone”. What he did was very wrong, and he probably shouldnt have been placed with teaching children again, BUT we all still love and support him because he is a brother in Christ and we shouldnt turn our backs on him.
My Crary was another one of my favorite teachers. I am very devasted by these accuations, however, (as much as I love him) I am not surprised.
I remember sitting in chapel as Mr Angela introduced a new teacher, who was also young (like Mr Crary), and Mr Angela said “looks like Mr Crary has some new competition”. Mr Crary was flirty and very attractive. The fact that Mr Angela made an introduction like that suggests that others were aware of the flirtation.
I am not going to write about anything that I personally thought was inappropriate, because who am I to point the finger? In the same way I feel we should support Dwayne, I think we need to remember that Mr Crary is also a brother in Christ, whether or not he is guilty. We need to continue to pray for him as this is a very troubling time. However, there is an alleged victim out there who is also suffering and until the verdict is out, I think we should pray for both parties.
I pray to God that these allegations are false. Hopefully, one day the lives of all parties involved with be restored. I am confident that truth will prevail. I know that it may seem that I am against Mr Crary, but rather I cant imagine what either the alleged victim or Mr Crary is going through.
To begin with:
Yikes, the opinions of 20 somethings are the only opinions that I believe even matter in this case, since everyone who knows how Mr. Crary acted towards his students is now in their 20s, including the witness.
Second,… I think it’s really important to remember that this girl, whoever she is, isn’t even claiming that they had sexual intercourse, but that she was ‘fondled.’ Being also that it happened 11 or 12 times, and being that most girls in MY class talked in hushed tones about seducing Crary, leads me to believe that this girl, at the time she was 16, was excited about what was happening.
And yes, Jason Crary was the adult who should have done the responsible thing.
It should have never started. It should have ended. He should have stopped it before it happened 11 times.
But there are plenty of 16 year old girls in Christian schools that I have met personally who know more about sex than my parents. We are living in a different age, and people from my generation, when they are in their teens, are no longer the innocent, curious types. They know all about sex and they want to have it with anyone they find attractive. Whether or not they actually follow through is a different story,… it is hilarious to me that the age of consent is 18 in a time when it is downright strange to find a 20 year old virgin.
But the point to be made is that everyone needs to stop acting like this ‘victim’ is going through a lot of emotional and psychological ’suffering.’ THEY DIDN’T EVEN HAVE SEX, PEOPLE.
If you MAKE OUT with your teacher when you are in high school, you should seriously be over it by the time 10 years have passed.
What Jason Crary allegedly did was wrong. I am not questioning that. A 26 year old should know better than perhaps a 16 year old should on something like this. I believe Jason Crary should be punished, but I’m tired of all of you standing behind this girl as if she was a simpleton who didn’t know what she was doing because she was 16. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was making out with her hot teacher. The guy that every other girl in the school wanted.
Jason Crary would never force himself on anyone. I would bet my life on that. No exaggeration. I bet my life. If he forced himself on her, any one of you is welcome to come to my house and shoot me. I believe it completely.
In summation,…
IF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE:
What Jason Crary did was wrong.
But it was not sexual battery.
He made a bad judgement and he deserves to be punished for it. But he does not need 20 years in prison and $40,000 to learn his lesson.
He has probably learned his lesson in the past ten years through maturation and remorse.
Everyone wants to jump on this dude’s back and call him a pervert to make themselves feel better, but they don’t even know him.
He’s the best teacher I ever had.
This girl wants him convicted so she can take him to civil court and get some money out of this deal.
If you need proof that she’s off her rocker, look no further than her choice to try to sue a PRIVATE SCHOOL TEACHER.
I’m done, people.
None of us know anything.
But some of us know a little bit more than others.
Those relaying on the media or the rumor mill have no place making judgements on anyone involved in this case.
AMEN!!
You are correct about forgiving the sinner. However, first there must be repentance. After repentance there is to be restitution and if there is guilt there is a price to pay. Restoration comes after the above. Grace needs to be extended to the alleged victim- calling names and implicating that it was her fault isn’t Christian.
Someday the WCS students and recent alums will grow up, get married, and have kids. I wonder if they would want their daughters spending alone time with a male teacher who has pedophile behavior in his past– Are they willing to role the dice on that one because they equate grace with denial. Do they think it is the right of church leaders to cover up this kind of information?
If so, don’t ever go off birth control because you are unfit for parenting.
Supporters of Dwayne (and Jason if convicted) start pooling your resources now to care for the needs of their spouses and children– they will need your $$$ in addition to your prayers.
Jesus forgives all comers– that does not negate the responsibility to protect your children.
And to you facebookers– God may have used Dwayne or Jason positively in your life– and if these allegations are true– God still used them– But do not attack the victims or the whistle blower- God is using them as well.
Also– critics of the WCS administration– Make sure you know WHO was responsible for the cover-up– and how hight up the chain of command this decision went.
I STRONGLY suspect the poor souls who are now the default spokespeople of this incident had nothing to do with the decision that led to the rehire of Dwayne.
All the energy that people are spending bashing Judi or questioning motives should be spent pursuing the truth about the responsible parties. And pray that no innocent parties will take the fall for the foolish behavior of others.
i have one thing to say.
yes crary was the adult and
if anything happened should
have stopped it but the girl
is at fault too whether she
was asking for it or not.
She was freaking 16 years old
what 16 year old girl would go
to the house of someone who
“abused her” multiple times?!
Thats crazy first of all if this
is all true she could have stopped
it too. she was old enough to know
if something is right or wrong and
could have told someone and NOT GONE
BACK TO HIS HOUSE. i really am not
sure if i believe she IS a credible
witness she sounds like she has some
problems she needs to deal with. as for
crary what he did is wrong if its true,
im not sayin its not wrong but after reading
some comments on here about the girl she
sounds like a weirdo, more so than i ever
thought before.
To Raskolnikov: The law says something different than you do. It is not about her age, it is the fact that a teacher allegedly had sexual contact with her. Plus it is obvious you know nothing about sexual abuse. Some people who are sexually abused react by becoming promiscious. They find their only worth is through sex or they think they can only be accepted through sex. A teacher is someone in a position of authority and influence over their students and hence their is special clauses in the law to punish those that abuse that power. And you have no idea about the victim any more than I do. It does not matter, the point is ALL K-12 teachers know that you NEVER have sexual relations with a student. EVER. So yes pray for him and his family but dont try to excuse the actions, if true, that were done. Wrong is wrong.
Dear little do you know:
your right little do YOU know!
WCHS did NOT know what Crary
did because ladies and gentlemen…
THE CHARGES WERE MADE LAST WEEK!
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My friend has made some very good points: the girl was 16 and from what HCS students have said she was egging on anything that might have happened. I firmly believe that if something did happen that she was old enough to know what was happening and who to report the situation to. She was in control of the situation because she chose to go to his house time after time after time and if she wanted the supposed abuse to stop…she should have stopped going to his house! I don’t know Mr. Crary extremely well but I have had interactions with him and he is such a nice person and has never been inappropriate in any way. I personally believe this is a situation where he denied her advances and she is crying wolf to try and “get him back” (revenge-wise). If this is indeed the case I hope she is dealt with appropriately seeing as she is now 27 and acting like a spoiled child.
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And for Alex, in Ohio at least this case would not be about Age of Consent. O.R.C. 2907.03 (A)(8) is specifically written for these kind of occurrences:
(8) The other person is a minor, the offender is a teacher, administrator, coach, or other person in authority employed by or serving in an institution of higher education, and the other person is enrolled in or attends that institution.
Whoever violates this section is guilty of sexual battery. Except as otherwise provided in this division, sexual battery is a felony of the third degree. If the other person is less than thirteen years of age, sexual battery is a felony of the second degree, and the court shall impose upon the offender a mandatory prison term equal to one of the prison terms prescribed in section 2929.14 of the Revised Code for a felony of the second degree.
wow raskolnikov, you are my hero
well put m well put :]
& WCHS alum with a brain:
have you ever gone to high school?!
cause if u have i think u need to go back…
i agree the church should not have hid it
and mr. smith should not have been rehired
without other knowing BUT i know FOR A FACT
our school would not be the way it is today
without mr. smith no matter what has come out
now. i am certainly confused about how you can
be mad that he was a teacher again sure it might
not be squeaky clean that they did that but
if they were comfortable with it they are the
ones that know ALL the facts so they must have
had their reasons. One of my friends asked me
the other day if i would want him as a teacher
now after knowing whats going on and i 100% would
he is an amazeing man and teacher and all the people
who wont have him are at an extreme disadvantage.
You have NO IDEA what our school
is like with him and crary gone. it has been the
hardest week ever. where as you might be relieved
that he is gone, which i assume from your comment
above, our school has been turned up and down, and
dragged in the dirt and we miss them it is nowhere
near the same. so before spouting off next time
think of not only mr smiths doing wrong but also
how people are affected and about how his life and
the life of his family is totally ruined.
Little Do you know:
here is the rest of what i was
trying to say… tamed down.
So next time little do you know you
might want to get the facts right
before making accusations you have no idea about.
so stop making up things cause i know for a fact
wc had no idea about crary. NO ONE DID.
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I am glad that Mr. Smith is gone, I had him as a middle school teacher and track coach, he was nice enough but wasn’t that great. His incident happened the year I graduated and I was appalled when he was rehired and I assumed it was because his dad was the superintendent, even if Taylor did remove himself from the re-hiring process he was still the boss and I am sure that that fact swayed some in the re-hiring process. I know Dwayne’s wife and I am glad that all was forgiven, but he should have found another line of employment. I lost a lot of faith in Grace Brethren for re-hiring him. I do not know Mr. Crary, but if he ever touched a student, then he should be held accountable for his actions. I feel sorry for his family having to go through this. As a wife I pray and trust that my husband would never do anything that these men are accused of with a minor or adult, it says a lot about a man’s character what he will do when faced with temptation. and as a mother to young girls, I think I’ll be home schooling, if you can’t even trust the Christian schools, who can you trust, the schools first job is to protect our children, not anyone who hurts them, even if they have repented.
In reference to no one knowing what Mr Smith had done in the past when he was rehired; apparently that is not true. The high school kids “all” knew what he had done. They didn’t know the graphic details, but they knew it was sexual and with a middle school student. So it was not exactly a well kept secret. As the years went by fewer and fewer people knew about it. I guess the school should have made an announcement every year. On another note, I cannot understand why so many of you are having such a difficult time understanding why wchs thought they could handle a matter like this differently than the world or the state would handle it. When there is no foundation for morality you do need to operate within the letter of the law. Maybe you haven’t noticed, but this country is becoming a Police State. Hence, the Pharisee, Judi Welsh thinking somehow the “right” thing to do was to give this confidential information to the Dispatch. I know that’s always the first place I think to go when I don’t know what to do. Oh, and it isn’t a coincidence that Mr Crary was charged with his stuff now, because throughout the entire country AP reporters have been digging up dirt on teachers in every state. They had 44 in Wisconsin when the former HCS student decided this was a good time to go to the police with her charges. And as for the prosecutor saying she is a credible witness; well I believe that’s exactly what the prosecutor in SC said about his witness when he charged the boys from Duke with sexual assault or rape. That prosecutor is now in jail and disbarred. But I guess no one remembers since it was lasts years witch hunt.
Lets see, first things first. WCS already said they had received a 2 calls about the Crary incident in the past but there was nothing found at that time, so they kinda knew. As for the the whole “confidential” notes bit, get it right. There was no confidentiality involved because the lady who wrote was not a licensed anything just a person who wrote jotted some things down on paper, not to mention the papers were being disposed of which makes them trash. And it is a good thing this all came out as it now is causing changes to be made that should have been made long ago. And unless you are one of the very few people who have been privy to everything from the recordings to conversations and meetings, than you do not know the whole story and are only speculating, most of the time wildly. And morality nothing, NO ONE has the right to put another persons child at risk like that without the parents knowledge and consent. That is/was the mistake they made and the mistake they acknowldge making. It would have been different if they told the parents what happened and said they wanted to rehire him and the parents then agreed.
The prosecutor in the Duke case was up for re-election. The prosecutor in Wisconsin is not trying to make a name for himself. Regarding credible (as the prosecutor said) he certainly would be sure of that- especially since this accusation if from 11 years ago.- as you pointed out there are plenty of current ones to deal with.
WCHS student- if you look at the previous writings- there is a comment about the schools not being forthcoming- it is not true that no one knew before last week-
I am really sorry for the pain the students are going through. REL
“sad”: the thing is not everyone is going to unanimously agree on something, the majority of parents at our school loved Mr. Smith and wouldn’t have minded him staying but because the other 1/4 didn’t want him there he resigned. That says a lot about him as a person, that he resigned for the good of the school.
As for what he did being announced EVERY YEAR…well that’s just ridiculous. I would not want to get the same email every year saying “just so you know, mr smith fondled a middle school girl 5/6/7/8/9/10 years ago…” that’s beating a dead horse.
Actually I do not think you can say what the “majority” would or would not have done or thought 10 years ago. They specifically made a special law about teacher/student relations for a reason. EVERY K-12 teacher knows that you do not have sexual contact with a student and if you do and get caught it means you will no longer be a teacher. I do feel sorry for Mr Smith in a way because the minute they rehired him, and they went and found him and asked him to come back, they set him up for this to happen. It shows poor judgement on the part of those in charge. It shows poor judgement again when they “stood by their decision” when it came to light. Now the State is going to take the matter out of their hands with new laws.
To WCHS student: Suggesting it be announced every year was an extremely sarcastic statement, not to be taken literally.
Former wchs parent: no dip its a sarcastic comment thats why she said it. & people can take it literally if they want to so just stay out of it and let people say and think what they want.
& Sad: Actually the MAJORITY is CORRECT. I know that almost everyone at my school (wchs just in case u didnt catch that) thinks this is ridiculous it has to come out now about 10-15 years later. He has repented and confessed his sin. One of the hardest things he could do and i wish he was still my teacher. As far as im concerned he still is and i will gladly tell everyone i was a student of his and Mr. Crary’s.
Yes, Sad the State is going to once again take something out of our hands because “we the people” are far too feable minded and inadequate to handle, well, really much of anything, on our own. I’m so glad that Judi Welsh made sure that the state is now going to care for the people at WCHS. Some might call what she did cannibalism (eating your own), but really she was only making sure the authority was taken away from those incompetent church folks. Thank goodness we have people like her and a government that wants to make sure we never have any authority over anything that matters.
oh my
“former wchs parent”
you have left me speechless with your last post (which i hope was sarcastic)
that was a fantastic argument
and to wchs student the first one: down girl she was talking about her comment not mine haha
To WCHS student: Yes, that was sarcastic and thank you for setting the other comment straight, it was too mangled for me.
haha oh totally missed that thanks m :]
& sad: again wcs did not recieve ANY calls
about mr crary because…….
CHARGES WERE FILLED LAST 2 WEDNESDAYS AGO.
geez you people and ur stories truly enchants me :]
& sorry former wchs parent!
i thought u meant wchs student said that haha
Hey Sad,
First of all, cheer up.
Second, when did I say anything about sexual abuse NOT making someone become promiscuous? I did not even touch on that issue, and if I had, it would have been irrelevant, since my only position would have been that this girl was promiscuous BEFORE she went over to Mr. Crary’s house to make out with him 11 times.
If you’re going to try to argue with me, a good tip would be to argue against points that I have actually made.
Thirdly, regardless of the position of authority that he may have been in,… regardless of it being a teacher/student relationship, the actual Wisconsin law states, the way I read it [and I have], that in order for it to be sexual battery or assault,… there still have to be two elements present which I believe are missing from this case…
A.] the sexual contact must be unwanted (which brings us to issues of consenting age… see my comment above) and/or…
B.] it must be accompanied by bodily harm, pregnancy, or threats of any kind.
I’m ruling out B,… you don’t have to,… but I know the guy and B is inconceivable.
So what we have left is A. If this girl WANTED it, which was my guess,… then the only case one would have was that she was not old enough to know what she was choosing (age of consent) and my argument above was that yes she was.
FINALLY FOURTH:
I’ve been thinking a lot about this,… and I think I have changed my position on this overall.
Straight up…
I think he’s innocent.
I think there is something afoot, and it stinks. Like a fish in Denmark.
I would be willing to bet money that Jason Crary never touched that girl.
So I propose we begin a talk about what is in it for the accusing parties.
Apparently WCS is incapable of doing so, Along with many other schools. It is not about the parents and the laws need to fixed. All you have to do is look at the article, heck look at this site even. I find it funny how the person who truly was out to protect the children is villified and those who put them at risk defended. Seems like some of you DO need some oversight obviously.
And WCS student…WCS SAID they received 2 calls…did you miss that? Not that it matters because there is nothing they could have done since no charges were filed until now and he had doen nothing here for them to find so it is pointless.
As you said sad- WCS - did receive a call many years ago to warn them about Crary- and they chose to do nothing.
Raskolnikov- the prosecutor would not bring charges if he/she didn’t think they would stick. We can all think whatever we want - the truth will come out. Lastly, what an underage minor thinks he/she wants doesn’t matter- Any sexual contact is Against the law-
To Rask: You are correct in that I was talking about Ohio law rather than Wisconsin law. I have no clue about whether he is or is not guilty or what happened and nethier does anyone else except for him and his accuser.
To C parent: While I am not taking WCS’s side I do wish to be fair. What exactly could they do about it? You can’t just toss people because of a possible infraction. And seeing as nothing has been brought out until now just exactly do you expect them to have done? With no complaints or allegations from anyone at WCS where Mr. Crary was and no charges from HCS they could not do anything. And we still do not know if he did anything until this all comes out. So try to at least be somewhat fair before accusing them. WCS made enough errors already without having to make up new ones.
yes I suppose I did miss where it was announced that the school knew and I would love if you told me where you found that information because I am having a hard time believing you.
Okay really Sad and C. parent::
Your just believing what you want to hear
and im here to tell you YOUR WRONG.
WCS has said time and time again that
they did not know about Mr. Crary.
No one did really when are you going
to understand this?!
Not only am i saying this but i know there
will be 400 other students who will back me
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& C. parent i find your comment about a 16
year old girl whatever she thinks doesnt
matter is very insulting. being a almost 16
year old girl myself i find that completely
untrue. and i know at 16 there is alot of
stuff that goes on that we cant see whats
wrong with it but dont you think a girl who is
16 at least has the brain power to put 2+2 together?!
what self respecting 16 year old girl would put herself
in a situation like that time and time again??
which i guess is the problem here. from what i have
heard of her classmates she does not sound very self
respecting and deleted by webmaster. ha so im goin with Raskolnikov
and saying i believe crary is innocent. i believe if there was
anything that did happen it was concentual. which still is not right
but does not require charges to be made.
WCHS student: They said it at the meeting they had. You can ask Tim for a audio copy of the meeting, go to his blog and click on the link. You can also find the information where it is reported they said it on his blog also. As was already pointed out it makes no difference anyway.
You are saying nothing has been brought out until now- that is true regarding the legal piece-
We both agree that WCS said they had gotten phone calls- why wouldn’t they check those out?
You are correct about no complaints at WCS but as we have seen many do not come forward because of shame etc.
To almost 16 yr old student: Her age means nothing according to the law in the State of Ohio. My opinion and your opinion are pointless on the matter as the law is very clear on the matter in Ohio. So if you find that insulting, than the problem is yours and not mine.
To C Parent: I find they have done nothing wrong in regards to the Crary case. What could they have checked out really? No complaints from students at WCS and nothing from anywhere else other than a possible concern. So they look and find nothing and move on. They made their mistakes in the Smith case.
To C Parent: You are correct. If you read the AP article they mentioned that only about 1 in 10 victims come forward in these kind of cases. And if you look at some of the other stats you’ll find that ofenders go for many years without getting caught and often have numerous victims, victims do not report. Tan add in the fact that most of the teachers caught are also “popular” and praised for their excellence it paints a chilling scenario. People have a vested interest in not believing that the popular, excellent charming guy they know and like could never do this on their own so lets lash out at everyone else or make excuses.
If victims are reluctant to report, do you think an environment where they see confidential records leaked to the press is more or less likely to make them come forward?
In fact, let’s do something constructive rather than taking potshots at each other: what’s the solution? How do you construct an environment where victims can come forward and where teachers are protected from false allegations?
Raskolnikov, thanks for your posts. I agree with your point of view; it was well stated.
To Sad: Who are you (rhetorical question)? Looking at other comments on here from you, it seems as if you don’t have very much knowledge as to what is actually going on inside WC. I’m sorry if you are actually involved in the community, but from reading your posts it seems like the majority of the knowledge you have is from the news. Now, you may not know this now, but someday you will find out that newspapers aren’t always accurate. People can spin and twist a story to make it read anything they want. For example, the minor detail that Crary was carried out in handcuffs isn’t true. Ask ANYONE that witnessed the event. Another thing: you keep mentioning what OHIO law says. Are you forgetting that the charges are based in WISCONSIN?? Therefore, the WISCONSIN law applies to this case!
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I know for a fact that what you are saying is incorrect. I am sorry for your losses at your school. Regarding 16 year olds - It’s not that I don’t think they know things…………but older teachers should know better. This is difficult for adults and students alike.
Guess what people, it is not your place to say who is guilty or innocent. How dare you sit and accuse the victim of lying. To whoever sat at their keyboard and typed “what is in it for the victim”… I mean seriously?? Cuz I mean, everyone KNOWS christian school teachers are loaded and she is probably going to gain a lot of money by doing this. Or perhaps, she wants people to rip her apart, as you are doing, and accuse her of lying and poor character. Maybe you should sit back and realize that you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, unless you knew Jason Crary 10 years ago and were at his house at the times of attack (or lived at his house and know he never touched her). Because hey, let’s face it, people change. For the good or the bad, they change. So don’t sit there and tell people you know he didn’t do it, because guess what, you don’t.
As for moving into the future at this and other schools, what other lines need to be drawn:
-hire a teacher who has a bad driving record?
-hire a teacher who smokes?
-hire as an employee who will deal with children someone who has engaged in the occult?
-hire anyone against whom allegations have been made in the past?
To WCS Alum with a Brain:
I didn’t say I KNOW anything.
I said I bet.
I said I think.
These things are my GUESSES.
No, I didn’t know Jason Crary 10 years ago, but I knew him 9 years ago.
How dare I accuse the victim of lying?
For someone who is so bent on not calling anyone guilty or innocent, you sure are holding fast to the innocence of this ‘victim.’
This is the internet. It is a blog, and it’s kind of like a forum. It is a place where people express their opinions.
If you want to argue against people’s opinions, go right ahead.
I disagree hugely with you and Sad on the issues, but I’m not going to question your right to say it.
But trying to attack my morality, or trying to say ‘how dare you’ say something,… or say anything I want… is downright contrary to the idea of what is going on here.
People are expressing themselves.
If you have a problem with it, don’t read it.
But sure as hell don’t post something telling them not to do it.
Or point out the obvious, like the fact that we “don’t know” what happened.
The only way that is relevant is if I come out with guns blazing posting “HEY EVERYONE I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!!!”
That is a waste of everyone’s time.
In regards to what Wow has to say,…
I think that private schools should put in place the same background checks as are in place in public schools.
In the case of Jason Crary, this doesn’t much matter, as he would have had a clean record even if WCS would have checked with HCS.
Dwayne Smith should have never been rehired, but people are ignoring the fact that he DID, after being rehired, operate as a teacher and girls soccer coach without incident for 10 years. Still should not have been rehired, because the church and school should not have even taken the risk.
Here’s the thing, I strongly dislike WCHS. Really I do. For a lot of reasons that I don’t wish to get into here.
Nothing I am saying is in defense of the school, nor am I trying to say that if the allegations turn out to be true, that the law was not broken. Moreso I am saying that the law is stupid and needs to be changed. I am saying that 16 year olds know what they are doing in my generation. And i am saying that Jason Crary, the man himself, doesn’t deserve this. Furthermore, Dwayne Smith, rehired or not, did not deserve a Dispatch article coming out ten years after he was rehabilitated. It’s just embarrassing.
I don’t care about the school. I’d be just fine with WCHS closing it’s doors forever. But these men don’t deserve their lives being ruined.
And yes, you should hire a teacher with a bad driving record.
And one who smokes.
Come on.
First, they admitted a mistake in rehiring Dwayne. That was said publicly.
Second, they also said that they have to do the same background checks that public schools do. Dwayne did get a teaching license even after his admission so there is a gap in the system and that needs to be changed.
What about someone who has been involved in the occult but later repents? yea or nay?
I disagree that they made a mistake in rehiring Dwayne. Judy Welsh is not a hero, nor did she do the right or noble thing. She is not protecting any children, as there are now hundreds of deeply distraught High School kids that were doing quite well until she decided to do something sooo destructive and harmful to, I’m guessing now, thousands of people. Not to mention what she has done to Mr. Smith’s family. And how it is that she is not in violation of the counseler’s code of ethics, I will never know! She should have her license stripped from her. I don’t care what that note was written on or by who, it was in a cofidential file, all of her conversations were confidential, any notes she took of conversations and recordings, were confidential. For a counselor everything is confidential, that is why people are supposed to be able to trust their deepest, darkest secrets with a licensed professional. And even if things were to be thrown out, it was her duty to shred all of it. If somehow she avoids losing her license anyone with a modicum of sense would never trust her anyway. They would never know when she decided they were a danger to the public.
former wchs parent, are you kidding me? judy welsh didnt do anything to dwaynes family, he did this all on his own. unfortunately, now he has no job, someone who was involved in the rehiring process should offer him a job somewhere other than a school.
This is a very complex problem. Let’s not forget that it’s not just teachers who do this:
http://advance.uconn.edu/2003/030922/03092210.htm
One of the findings: “Among the cases substantiated by DCF, officials confirm most abusers are either parents or caretakers of the children who were abused.”
“The typical child molester in Connecticut is not the shady stranger loitering in a local park. It is more likely to be a parent, relative, or friend.”
i was a student of his too and no matter what anyone else says i thought he was an amazing teacher and an amazing person to have as a friend as well. i agree with whoever said they dont think he in any way harmed her or put her in any danger or any situation she didnt want to be in. if she didnt want to be in that situation she wouldnt have been at his house, especially so many times. come on now. i was 17 and spent a lot of time around him as well, i would be VERY surprised if anyone else comes out trying to say he did something else. im praying that the charges get dropped and that this girl can get over all this drama. if its true it was both of their faults so im sorry to whoever u are girl i dont feel sorry for you at all. i think its sad that you are doing this to someone after yall had talkd about it and u said it was ok in the past. i love the crary family and always will-my prayers are with them and the students effected by this. god bless.
To Former: You haveno clue what you are talking about. Unless you know everything that happened and have access to everything you are just being spiteful, unchristian, and wrong. And as a counselor myself I can say that you are wrong and what you ahve said as well. Nothing was confidential and it being thrown away makes it even more so. She revealed ZERO about any of her clients. Zero. As the Dispatch pointed out your thinking is twisted and illogical in this. And if you want to blame someone, blame me as I urged Mrs. Welsh to do just what she did when the admin ingnored her concerns. Oh wait, you did not know that either did you? In fact almost no one knows ALL the facts and until you do your comments are ill-informed and wrong.
SO what’s up with these charges, man? I mean, what’s been goin’ on? We’ve been wanting to know. So can someone spell out all of the actual facts for my fellow Alum and I, what do we know for SURE? It’s hard to pull out the concrete evidence from the opinion, and we just want to know what’s happening:
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Crary hasn’t been convicted, correct?
Hasn’t plead guilty or anything, right?
Do we have any witnesses supporting, or speaking against, this alleged victim’s case?
These charges WERE filed only a few weeks ago, they aren’t pending charges from actually filed years ago, even though the victim is claiming the incidents happened years ago, correct?
Anything else? Thanks for fillin’ us in, man!
Peace in 2007
Just to clarify, any notes, recordings or anything else taken of meetings with someone who is not a client and not discussing a client are NOT confidential. Notes written by a layperson are also not confidential. Notes in the trash are also not confidential. And doing the right thing takes precedent over doing things right. Not to mention the school has already apologized and showed they made a mistake. If anyone was to blame it was them as they set up Mr smith for this the minute they hired him back because they knew this could happen and they put his well being ahead of common sense and children’s safety. It is odd that you are outraged that someone did the right thing and protected kids but not outraged that a full grown adult admitted to repeatedly having sex with an 8th grader and then blaming her for it. 8th grade, not 12th grade. Not 16 either.
I completely agree with you, former WCHS parent. I have a degree in Psychology, and she did violate the code of ethics for counselors. Even if she’s not licensed, she still violated it. I’m not licensed, but I’m still held to the code of ethics, as well.
With this said, I can foresee a potential rebuttal from Judy. She may claim that she reported it because the contents in it may have caused someone else to be harmed. In response to that possible rebuttle, I just have to say that whereas she may be right that there may be potential harm to someone else - current or future WCS students (which, knowing Mr. Smith, I don’t think would ever happen, again), the ethics code does not mean she can go to the newspaper with confidential information. She can go to the authorities - police officers, the potential people who would be harmed, etc.
In both Mr. Smith’s and Mr. Crary’s situations, I have been pray for everyone involved - the men, the victim and alleged victim, both sets of families, current and soon-to-be students, etc. Even though I believe and want Mr. Crary to be proven innocent, I pray that justice will be done.
I did a little follow up, Mr. Crary is charged under section 948.095 which IS in regards to him being a teacher and her a student. Here is the law in Wisconsin that he is charged under according to the court docket:
SEXUAL ASSAULT OF A CHILD BY A SCHOOL STAFF PERSON OR A PERSON WHO WORKS OR VOLUNTEERS WITH CHILDREN. “Whoever has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a child 16 or older” (not a spouse) is guilty of a Class H felony if “[t]he child is enrolled as a student in a school or a school district” AND “[t]he defendant is a member of the school staff of the school or school district in which the child is enrolled as a student.” “A person who has attained the age of 21 years and who engages in an occupation or participates in a volunteer position that requires him or her to work or interact directly with children may not have sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a child who has attained the age of 16, who is not the person’s spouse, and with whom the person works or interacts through that occupation or volunteer position.” School staff and school are defined in the statute. Certain types of professions are presumed to fall within this statute
They were not “her” records. She was an employee. They were not “her” records. She violated the trust with the result that the victim had to go through this all over again. She has also created an atmosphere where other victims will be reluctant to come forward. I fear that people are being manipulated here. Just a caution.
People will be reluctant to come forward because of the WCS/GBC. the victim herself already stated how messed the whole thing was that she had to go through and it made her leave the school. I want to point out that there is a difference between doing things right (mr I have a psych degree) and doing the right thing. She did the right thing. period. And practically everyone else can see that except the few closely connected to WCS/GBC. And seeing as the school SAID they made a mistake and because of this being brought out they will now make changes….Gee, the school can admit they made a mistake and now will change but you guys can not see that and just want to attack someone who did the right thing. That is sad.
All this attacking the person who revealed it is odd it falls right into what the Dispatch article said:
A small blurb from the Dispatch sums things up:
“was more outraged that we had told the world about his past than she was about the fact that he assaulted a young student.”
“That is twisted and illogical. It is the kind of disregard for victims and defense of perpetrators that allowed the state disciplinary system to fall into such a mess.”
And that is what some of you are doing here and that is messed up. And rather than attacking people and using all this energy in such a fashion why dont you take that energy and figure out constructive ways to move forward and to prevent that from happening.
I just wish WCS would publically retract the initial faq they published. Repentence for sins needs to occur in the venue in which the sin occured. All the crap from the faq or dispatch commentary should be adressed in those venues. The faq was complete garbage- they should apologize on their web-page. The parents info meeting did not suffice.
Also- if Judi’s going to the Dispatch results in positive policy change and a safer learning environment then perhaps the WCS administration should PUBLICALLY apologize for intially ignoring Judi, and forcing her to go to the press with the full account of their irresponsible policies. All the threats and accusations being thrown towards Judi from WCS students, parents, and alumnis– these attacks are done by people who believe they are supporting the administration by behaving in this fashion. Without a public repudiation of this behavior by Anglea and Co. this will be taken as the tacit approval or endorsement by those in charge.
You’re right C, I didn’t know that Mr Smith had sex repeatedly with her. I’m guessing no one else on here did either. It’s obvious you really are Judy’s good friend. You two must have your own special ethics code.
To Chris - I agree with you. But people would rather be vindictave and kill the messenger rather than place the blame squarely where it lies.
“C”- check your facts. From your comment:
“It is odd that you are outraged that someone did the right thing and protected kids but not outraged that a full grown adult admitted to repeatedly having sex with an 8th grader and then blaming her for it. 8th grade, not 12th grade. Not 16 either.”
check your facts.
No paper or article has ever said Mr. Smith had sex with a student.
I haven’t really heard anyone blame the eigth grader either.
Most of the comments on here suggesting that it is partially the student’s fault are talking about the 16 year old student in Wisconsin.
Unless Judi Welsh has told you this info, I don’t really see where you are coming up with it.
Sorry I should have said sexually assaulted her. And where it says “blaming her” for it is in reference to him saying